Monday, August 14, 2006

Poll: Innocent or Guilty?


Blogger Craig said...

I think you need another option. Something like "I could go either way, but I want to see more evidence."

5:07 AM  
Blogger arborjimb said...

Amateur wrote ...The question about whether a one-day dose of Testosterone would have helped Floyd or not is irrelevant.


The question is not irrelevant here. It goes to his motivtion for doing it. If it would not help, then why do it?

As I wrote before, the problem with this case is the specific doping infraction makes no sense. Had he been busted with epo, or a blood transfusion, that would have made more sense for him at that point in the race. (Others have argued that is exactly what he did, he had an infusion of his own blood which was tainted with small amounts of T. This would make more sense. I believe their is still no test for transfusions of your own blood. Hamilton was busted for using someone else's blood)

Gatlin get busted for taking T and that makes more sense. Early in the season to use T in training makes sense, especially for a sprinter.

That said, you're not innocent because you have an illegal substance in your body that would not help. The burden of proof still lies with Floyd. But the rest of us and still ask, "Why this drug, in this amount, at this time, if it has uncertain benefts?"

5:08 AM  
Blogger Ropadoper said...

I am no expert on drug protocols but my understanding was that blood transfusions were usually done before a Grand Tour as the benefits would be minimal for doing on the day of the tour.

7:00 AM  
Blogger ilsanjo said...

Interesting info from

German doctor Kurt Moosburger, who has looked after J Jaksche (among others) for the past two years, has told dpa that he believes that performance enhancing drugs are "indispensable" for high level cycling

To help recover, testosterone and human growth hormone can be used. "Both are made by the body and are therefore natural substances," he said. "They help to build muscle as well as in muscle recovery."

Dr Moosburger explained how it was done. "You put a standard testosterone patch that is used for male hormone replacement therapy on your scrotum and leave it there for about six hours. The small dose is not sufficient to produce a positive urine result in the doping test, but the body actually recovers faster."

Could this be a scenario that would apply to Landis?

Would using a T patch account for Landis' remarkable stage 17 ride?

8:26 AM  
Blogger Ministry of Information said...

Also worth a listen to Phil Liggett's comments. There seem to be a lot of cycling experts saying that something doesn't smell right about the whole thing.

12:05 PM  
Blogger ilsanjo said...

More info on stage 17 ride.

6:48 AM  
Blogger chad said...

By taking the drug could have given landis a mental edge in his own mind to think that it would help him. Mental factors are much stronger than any performance enhancing drug. Pushing yourself to limit is all mental. Try it out yourself and just when you reach so called failure, push past it and I guarantee you, you will have 20-30% more left in you.

3:18 AM  
Blogger Richard said...

I hope you and this entire site all feel bloody stupid after he's admitted doing it.

Lance took Floyd under his wing earlier in his career when he was an average rider.

Floyd couldn't live up to expectations and had to resort to doping.

Now he's trying to deflect attention and bring everyone else down. God only knows why Lance is even having to defend himself against a proven liar and cheat, when Lance has never once failed a drugs test.

Floyd is rotten to the core. No question.

6:23 AM  
Blogger RockinFX said...

Dope addicted, mini-brains with no discernible sense of ethical behavior (riders and fans alike) have ruined a sport I loved. Goddamn cheating a-holes and the imbeciles that think it's all OK because "everyone does it" make me sick. No matter what´╗┐ is "won" you're ultimately pathetic losers.

11:17 AM  
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11:18 AM  

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