Saturday, September 09, 2006

60% of TDF Riders Medically Cleared to Dope

Yep that's right. 60% of this year's Tour participants possessed clearances to consume banned substances. Of the 13 positive tests during the TDF (13? I only heard of one!), twelve were excused by a medical clearance. Guess which one was the odd man out? That's right, Floyd Landis....

This is utterly bizarre to me. Utterly.

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65 Comments:

Blogger WarKitty said...

Erm.

Yeah, that's bizarre. I'm rather disturbed that over half the competitors are "allowed" to dope.

2:56 PM  
Blogger Pete said...

Of course, Floyd had a medical exemption too. But for cortisone, not testosterone.

3:18 PM  
Blogger arborjimb said...

How do we know this is unusual? Afterall, most PEDs were developed for legit uses.

Any idea waht the % of medical exemptions is in other races and for other sports? I cannot believe it was 0% before this tour.

7:00 PM  
Blogger Jason A. Miller said...

Interesting article today at the New York Times: Ex-Teammates of Cycling Star Admit Drug Use.

7:43 PM  
Blogger roadtoad said...

I know this is off topic but I am always concerned by the lack of details in this case. For instance: why are only these two samples ever mentioned as being positive? testosterone is a fat soluble hormone, they tend to stick around for a while and should be detectable in the urine or blood for a relatively long time-at least until he was re-tested while wearing the yellow jersey.

12:53 AM  
Blogger Free Floyd said...

roadtoad this is an *excellent* question. never thought of that point. i think the reason is that he passed the remainder of his T/E tests? But that still does not make sense. I would think the results on the positive T/E would have come back soon enough to decide to maintain the second samples from subsequent tests even is the subsequent tests turned up negative for T/E. Apparently the sample pairs from negative T/E results get split up and the B sample is discarded? I need to check that...so incredibly busy right now that it's down the list of priorities, sadly. I may have even posted the documentation needed on this blog in August. Just don't remember right now...

2:18 AM  
Blogger wolfey said...

It's not 60% of TDF riders. It's 60% of the riders who were tested. Not all riders were tested. 60% of all riders may have exemptions, or they might not. Some riders may have been tested more than once. Not enough info to know for sure.

7:39 AM  
Blogger Free Floyd said...

60% of the 105 tested. That 105 is a sufficiently large sample for me to say with a high degree of confidence that 60% (plus or minus a few percent) of all riders have such certificates. 105 is a big sample no matter how you look at it, and it's a really big sample relative to the total population size (200 riders?).

12:58 PM  
Blogger JBDen said...

Hey, I thought everyone would be interested in this. Read the article "Catchy Carbon" in the November issue of Scientific American about the accuracy of the CIR test."...if the body were able to make testosterone from an artificial compund-such as the cortisone athletes sometimes inject to reduce muscle inflammation-might the natural hormone carry a synthetic-looking finger-print, Hayes notes." Wasn't Floyd taking regular cortisone injections for his hip pain? Can't this explain the CIR test results?

3:33 PM  
Blogger cyclebum40502 said...

I think the big picture here has been somewhat overlooked. Of course the main question here is did Floyd dope or not. However, the big dilemma here is do we or do we not have faith in the process? I had origionally thought of this only with respect to the analysis and procedures relating to the samples that Floyd had provided during and after the tour. Now after reading this article, I have to call into question the faith that I have in the entire "free pass" attitude the UCI seems to have with theses others who seem to be allowed to legally dope. Who has this right and how is it maintained? Where do we draw the line? Is there someone in the peleton who has the right to use EPO and thus ensure that he has the maximum hemocryt level allowed? How is this fair? Why, because you suffer from some condition, should you have the right to enhance your abilities beyond their normal levels? I just think the UCI needs to rethink its entire way of thinking. Either everyone can dope or no one can. You can't have it both ways which seems to be the way they want it.

7:28 PM  
Blogger fishbone said...

IN FEFENSE OF FLOYD LANDIS; Having sex can spike testrone levels. Therefore, cyclists should not have sex even hours before being tested for drugs. Testrone gets released into the blood where it remains for hours. Often times its enough to give a spontaneous erection the following morning after a night of sex.

6:44 PM  
Blogger Rob Tornoe said...

I think that the cycling profession is largely corrupt, whether it's these testing agencies or the cyclists themselves. And I think Landis is NOT exclusive from it all.

I'm an editorial cartoonist, so I wanted to hear what people Pro and Anti-Landis thought. You can check out my cartoon here.

7:18 AM  
Blogger Thomas said...

listen. floyd cheated. sorry if he looks like your best friend or something. he had five different stories out of the gate. he threaten to reveal things about Lemond on his own web blog. his manager tried to scare Lemond away from the hearing. if this is how things play out when someone's innocent I have to throw out a lifetime of observation.

10:33 PM  
Blogger Zach said...

Bottom line, Landis and many others may use any kind of substance under the sun to provide them with some semblance of health. That is not the crime. The true crime is the "seeing is not believing" stance the officials take and spread to the rest of the public who have to watch these useless titles being stripped one by one. I believe Landis won the 06 tour and he will continue to be the winner because I saw him ride faster than anyone else. Stay strong Landis because there are millions of people who know what truth is and hard work and actions of circumstance pay off bigger than any title or medal ever could.

6:44 PM  
Blogger DreFilm said...

I don't think there is enough information given on the topic. I first read about this on GlobalGrind's myspace page at http://www.myspace.com/theglobalgrind, and wanted to see if i could find more details, but i couldn't. So it sounds to me like he's guilty and thought that just because it was cycling and not some hugely watched sport like baseball that he would get away with it.

10:29 AM  
Blogger Howard said...

Has the possibility been looked into that Floyd was dosed with transdermal Androgel (testosterone gel 1%) just after the ride? Moving through the crowd, someone only needed to slap him on the shoulder and the substance would have been absorbed through the lycra. Would this have resulted in the same chemical signature? I would view the videos of him after the ride very carefully to see if this was done. It is my impression that the post race area is not a well controlled environment. Also, the administration of 10 to 15 grams of Androgel (100-150 mg of pure testosterone) in this way would be difficult to detect on a sweated up jersey.

2:02 PM  
Blogger jpd1009 said...

doesnt make him innocent, does it?

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Blogger Larry said...

He's guilty. To hide behind the everybody else's doing it defense is crap. For god's sake, how about a new angle - one where you train and earn the title as it used to be earned?

Bye Floyd.

11:49 AM  
Blogger Superuser said...

While we are not cyclists, my friends and I watched the Tour de France on television for several years during summer vacations. Our vacations happen to coincide with the race. We used the race for inspiration while we were relaxing away from our jobs, marveling at the skill and sheer determination of the competitors. From an outsider's point of view, the race was better than any motivational speech. But with the controversy around Floyd, disqualifications in the following year and ongoing press about doping, like the piece cited in the original post, most of my friends have abandoned watching the race. What are we looking at? Great athletes or great chemistry? Will Frishkorn be tossed out like Rasmussen? I feel sorry for the non-doping cyclists who have to tolerate this nonsense in their sport. The report cited by the poster does nothing to convince me about the innocence or guilt of Floyd... it's just another thing to turn me away from becoming a cycling fan.

7:46 PM  
Blogger Tom said...

While I'm sympathetic to anyone who may have been unjustly accused, it's very hard for me to find an explanation for the below, taken from Wikipedia, which seems to indicate Landis indulging in the most reprensible kind of tactics.

Also, as a strategic matter, I find the Landis team's willingness to use any and all possible explanations not to work for me. Instinctively, I feel that if someone is innocent, they will have one story and stick to it.


The LeMond testimony

On May 17, 2007 Greg LeMond took the stand in the USADA arbitration hearing. Under oath, he described a phone conversation he had with Floyd Landis on August 6, 2006 as well as another with Will Geoghegan, Landis's business manager, on May 16th, the evening before the testimony. The major points of the testimony are as follow:

In an August 6 phone conversation, LeMond allegedly told Landis that If you did (use banned substances), you could single-handedly change the sport. You could be the one who will salvage the sport, to which Landis allegedly responded What good would it do? If I did, it would destroy a lot of my friends and hurt a lot of people.[54]
LeMond disclosed his childhood sexual abuse by a LeMond family friend to Landis. I was sexually abused before I got into cycling, and it nearly destroyed me by keeping it secret, LeMond allegedly said to Landis. (Lying about doping) will come back to haunt you when you are 40 or 50. If you have a moral compass and ethics, this will destroy you.[54]
Will Geoghegan called LeMond at his personal mobile phone number the night before the scheduled testimony. LeMond's BlackBerry, with Geoghegan's phone number captured in the call log, was entered into evidence. [54]
According to Lemond quoted in the Sunday Times the conversation with Geoghegan was,

“ “Hello.”
“Greg?”
“Yeah, this is Greg.”
“Hi Greg, this is your uncle.”
“My uncle?!?”
“This is your uncle. Do you remember me?”
“Who is this?”
“This is your uncle and I’m going to be there tomorrow and we can talk about how we used to play hide the weenie.”
“Who the f*** is this?”[55]


Following the testimony, Landis's legal team announced that Geoghegan had just been fired as Landis's business manager. Geoghegan was also observed by reporters approaching LeMond during the break. LeMond later stated to reporters that Geoghegan had admitted making the call, and "tried to apologize".[54] Landis has admitted to being in the same room as Geoghegan when the call was made[56], and defended his decision not to fire Geoghegan until after the LeMond testimony, saying he had been waiting for legal advice. Landis has not commented on how Geoghegan came to know of LeMond's childhood sexual abuse as well as his personal mobile phone number. Geoghegan blamed "a beer or two" for his action, and entered an undisclosed rehab facility on May 21.[57] The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office opened an investigation of the incident as a potential witness tampering [58] and then terminated the case without prosecution on July 31.[59]

LeMond's testimony is arguably supported by an online posting Floyd Landis made on the Daily Peloton forum, in which he states that LeMond disclosed personal information of a sensitive nature to Landis, and threatened to use the information to damage LeMond if he continues to involve himself in Landis's USADA appeal process:

Unfortunately, the facts that he divulged to me in the hour which he spoke and gave no opportunity for me to do the same, would damage his character severely and I would rather not do what has been done to me. However, if he ever opens his mouth again and the word Floyd comes out, I will tell you all some things that you will wish you didn't know...[60]

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Blogger Tom said...

Floyd Landis: Liar, Cheat, Sociopath

The despicable way Landis conducted himself at the CAS hearing at Peperdine (when his manager tried to threaten/blackmail Greg LeMond) told me everything I needed to know.

I wasn't surprised at his admission yesterday he was a long time doper. Nor his pathetic attempt to take down the generation of American riders he came up with. Classless, bitter guy.

It's too bad he took so many people who contributed to his defense fund and bought his book.

He's so cynical, he literally had people pay money to be lied to.

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